Timeline for Screws vs. Pocket Holes vs. Traditional Joinery
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| Jun 28, 2020 at 18:13 | comment | added | user5572 | @Graphus, "good" is relative, yes. It also encompasses consistency. Whether or not someone would get the same good enough results as you for a given item today or tomorrow is also part of the story. Sometimes you luck out and get a good score for stuff like this. Other times, not so much. Not to mention that depending on the application it's ok to go cheap and know it will either be replaced anyway as it breaks, or the use does not justify trying go beyond good enough. But, as I said, this is an engineering maxim. It doesn't have to actually measure anything real, or encompass subtly. | |
| Jun 28, 2020 at 7:12 | comment | added | Graphus | The point about the diamond plates (and they're just one example) is that there is no real tradoff going on here, they are genuinely good, fast and cheap. There's no compromise because they're cheap, they're just inexpensive and good. They're not exactly the same as some high-end ones, but not meaningfully lesser for it. And some of them are actually better than certain plates that cost nearly 50 times as much [not an exaggeration] — the diamonds are graded just as well, but there are fewer anomalous clumps, which at least one major Name Brand is infamous for. | |
| Jun 25, 2020 at 17:19 | comment | added | user5572 | @Graphus but anyway, it's merely a shorthand for the fact in engineering that there are always constraints on anything we do in the physical world. It is more than apropos for this question, anyway. If you dial up the Good to max with the sort of furniture we are talking about here, something has to give. And if there is a constraint on how low Cheap can go, it's obvious what suffers! | |
| Jun 25, 2020 at 17:10 | comment | added | user5572 | @Graphus, the maxim describes the tension between the poles as continuous values, not binaries. It describes the tendency for all things that can be described as Good, or Fast, or Cheap that you cannot maximize all three. But you can borrow from either to move one up. Thus, it describes your diamond plates perfectly: some larger value of Cheap, with the rest split in some manner on the others. Increase Cheapness and something has to give. | |
| Jun 25, 2020 at 16:01 | comment | added | Graphus | Great Answer but I do want to take issue with just the opening line "Good, fast, or cheap. Choose any two." This is not a universal Truth, despite how it's held to be and how many good examples there are that it is true. There are clear exceptions which show it's not a Rule. The best example I know to point to these days are the cheap diamond plates from China. They are genuinely all three. And seem consistently so too, which is interesting given just how inexpensive they are (under 5 bucks a piece). | |
| Jun 25, 2020 at 15:57 | comment | added | Graphus | @FreeMan, ROFL. | |
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| Jun 24, 2020 at 17:58 | comment | added | user5572 | @FreeMan I FEEL SO SEEN | |
| Jun 24, 2020 at 17:24 | comment | added | FreeMan | So much truth. Great answer. Especially the last sentence. Throws a blanket over the latest 1/2 completed project... | |
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| Jun 24, 2020 at 14:41 | history | answered | user5572 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |