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Questions dealing with the movement of wood due to weather and seasonal changes.

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Is the weight of a board a good proxy for moisture content?

I've been working out a process to mill usable lumber from some trees that fell on my property. They are all either maple or cherry. Most of what I've read said to allow one year of drying time per ...
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Wood movement in a chair

In a Maloof-style low back chair (https://americanart.si.edu/artwork/low-back-side-chair-34536), the back legs attach directly to the seat and to the back. The grain in the seat runs back to front, ...
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Side table design: will wood movement and expansion be an issue?

I'm a beginning woodworker, and I've made a design for a side table. It's a small table, measuring 400x350mm (~ 16x14 inches). I'd like to make it in two types of wood, for the legs and the top. I was ...
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Shellac on wet wood

I'm making a picture frame... (3 8x10 side by side with simulated barn doors on either side. I'm using rough cut cypress wood that came from the sawmill and has a moisture content of 60%. I've planed ...
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Why is furniture built with side panel grain being vertical?

All the furniture building videos I have seen so far, the grain of the wood on the side panels is top to bottom. The grain on the top panel is left to right. By grain I mean the long threads that make ...
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How can I order wood which won't warp?

NB I am in the UK. The situation could be significantly different in other countries. I currently want to build some simple bookcases. I loathe MDF and want to make these from solid wood. Many years ...
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Are these cracks in this pergola of Nordic Pine wood something to be concerned about for use as a base for synthetic ceramic roof tiles?

I had a pergola installed a month or two ago. The material was Nordic Pine, and it was treated with a layer of isolating finish. I noticed that there are many cracks already in the wood: There are ...
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How to make a dimensionally stable panel using hardwood?

I need to create a panel that is about 24" square and about 1.5" thick and I want it to be dimensionally stable and not prone to splitting or warping. The material will probably be oak. What ...
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Honey locust disc cracking

I have a 4 inch cookie of honey locust I purchased from a local dealer. Kiln dried and moisture between 8 and 10. I had done all the crack filling on this piece and sanding it up. Left it in garage ...
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Can I use pine and poplar together in trim?

Is it safe to use pine and poplar interior trim pieces together or will I have trouble later from things expanding/contracting differently in the future? Specifically, I have pine door jambs and ...
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How to rip long planks without causing them to deform?

I may want to rip down a stain-grade pine 1x5 plank to about 3-3/4 width. I have a number of these planks that have been sitting indoors for over a month so any movement should have settled already. ...
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Non-permanent side-by-side assembly of boards

I am very new to woodworking, and I'm planning on building a table for my living room, from boards that are roughly 4x7 cm (1,6 x 2,6") and with metal legs. The table should look like this: but ...
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Does wood truly not have any movement to speak of longitudinally?

I'm curious about this mainly because i saw it being mentioned on woodworking.SE's posts, and some other sites. Essentially, I always thought that wood could have "wood" movement, especially ...
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Why did desk boards split apart? [duplicate]

I ordered this reclaimed wood desk a few months back, and at first it looked pretty good. However, as a few weeks went by, I noticed the glue holding the boards together started to fail in many places,...
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Wobbly bench issues

I'm an absolute novice at this but furlough has made me want to try a new skill and woodworking seems like a handy thing to learn. Excuse any stupid mistakes!! I built the frame, put the seat panels ...
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Miters on window casings shrank with cold weather. How do I fix this?

Last winter I started replacing the casings on the doors and windows in my house and have continued this off and on over the summer and fall. When the weather turned colder this fall, the miters on ...
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How do I repair chipboard for screws?

The bracket in the first image is holding a frame onto the bottom of a (Stiga) table tennis table. The other one (and some others) have broken off the table. I need to repair the chipboard as shown in ...
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Why don't door rails and stiles split apart?

We all hear the warnings about not going across the grain when fitting together boards, but obviously doors are constructed cross grain, with the grain of the rails going one direction and the stiles ...
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Wood movement on solid wood drawer with plywood/MDF bottom

I know this topic has been discussed a lot but I couldn’t find a clear answer to my question. Or I am lost in too much content without clarity on my particular question. I am building kitchen drawers ...
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Cupped fingejointed hardwood Birch panel

I'm in the process of building myself a workbench. Up until now, I've been using the floor as my workbench. I ordered an untreated, but planed fingerjointed hardwoord Beech counter to serve as my ...
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Implications of gluing a panel made of hard and soft woods

Are there any problems that may arise due to mixing softwood and hardwood in making a glued up panel work piece? I made this test panel last night with scrap pine and hardwood salvaged from a piece of ...
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laminating cherry to pine or ash

I want to make bedposts about 6" square. I want to laminate cherry to the outside and wonder about the core. I thought I would use pine or ash as a core. worried about the expansion of the inner core ...
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Why is my simple garden box warped?

So I attempted to make a simple raised garden bed out of box store 2x12s and 2x4s. I cut the pieces to length and square (using a circular saw) and went to attach the pieces with butt joints secured ...
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Why does my teak dining table have splits?

My dining table has a split, for which I recently posted a question asking how to repair it. I received a number of suggestions to post details of the table's construction, especially how the top is ...
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Would different finishing schedules inside and out spell doom for a bathroom cabinet?

For a little while now, I've been thinking about making a cabinet (or something) with a finely painted exterior, but a natural finish on the inside, so that there's a little hidden gem when someone ...
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Fixing table crack and ridge

I have a 5' square dining table made of teak. The tabletop appears to be made of glued-together boards 3" - 5" wide. A couple of these boards have come apart, and now I have a gap almost 1/8" running ...
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Table top attachment with aprons on only two sides

I'm building a small computer/writing desk. It will have a solid top, so I'm figuring out how to attach it to the frame to allow for wood movement. I planned on using tabletop fasteners (Z clips), ...
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How to straighten bowed wood outdoors [duplicate]

I have a garden bench with horizontal slats on the back rest, one of the slats is bowed. Has anybody got any ideas of how to straighten it out ?
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New Orleans style Exterior Wood Shutters

What process would you go through to create this style of shutters, with the expectation that they're built for long-life? Specifically, I'm interested in how the back panel is put together: glue or ...
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What can cause cracks in painted pine?

I'm taking an online woodworking course (The Weekend Woodworker), and built a small patio table a few months ago. I made it out of select pine (kiln dried), spray painted it (~2 coats), and put in on ...
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Solid wood furniture faces expand at different rates?

I'm a "weekend woodworker" (boxes, small shelves/cabinets, stuff like that). Now I'm thinking about replacing one of my wardrobes, and was thinking about doing it myself. The problem is: in Romania, ...
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How might I fix wobble in my studio desk build?

This is my first major woodworking projects and I'm having a bit of trouble. I have built this custom music studio desk and it keeps wobbling side to side. It does have a lot of weight on it so it ...
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How to account for wood movement in a curved chest lid

I have found various guides and plans for building a box or chest with a curved (coopered) lid that involve gluing the sides of the lid to the slats forming the top, which are themselves glued ...
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Wood floor movement mechanism

I'd like to understand why wood movement in a floor necessitates large expansion gaps around the outside of the room. I'm not asking why wood as a material undergoes changes due to moisture - I'm ...
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Wood expansion vs. steel

I am contemplating a design for a tabletop which would be made up of a series of oak strips, bolted from end to end using long threaded rod. It might be approx 10' (3 m) long. Using several rods, ...
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Tabletop attachment apron slots buttons tightness

Thinking about attaching a workbench tabletop (800mm x 600mm) made out of a 40mm oak panel (or probably 2 20mm oak panels glued together if I cannot find a 40mm one) like on the image below with ...
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How should I attached table top to crossed aprons?

The aprons are 1" wide and 3.5" tall. The table is made from 3 1x8 boards. I'd like to figure out a way to attach the top that accounts for wood movement. Would those figure eight washers or cleats ...
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2.20m x 3.80m rectangular frame - will it be stable?

I want to make a cover that masks the pond foil along the edges of my parents' fish pond which is 2.2m x 3.8m. I'm planning on using quarter sawn boards out of larch, 11cm wide and 3cm thick, joined ...
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Wood movement with L-shaped mitred leaning shelf

I'm doing a built-in for a closet. The closet is over the stairs so its front is sloped. I created an L shaped front and shelf from solid maple. The bottom foot or so is up against the wall that I can ...
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Worried about movement in a floating shelf style mantel shelf

I'd like to replace our mantel shelf over the holidays. The plan is to have something that looks like a large beam but is constructed like a floating shelf (box). Haven't picked the exact variety yet, ...
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Designing and Building a Through-Leg Table

A popular, modern style of table has the legs going through the table top, so that the end grain of the leg is exposed. Of course, the problem with this design immediately becomes the expansion and ...
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End grain mitre joints for outside

I'm making bird houses and I have been screwing the joints together. I have been drilling a pilot hole (2mm bit) and using 3mm X 30mm screws. I hung one in my garden and noticed that a couple of ...
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which direction does wood expand?

I know that wood expands due to seasonal changes in humidity and temperature, but that's the extent of my knowledge about it. In which direction do wood boards expand? In the same direction as the ...
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Proper grain orientation for a box

I'm making a small box that will be used to hold mail, and I came up with the following design, with keyed miters on all the outside joints and dados for the dividers: I've been reading recently ...
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Dealing with wood movement when attaching a wide panel to a curved leg

I am working on building a headboard with a 10" wide panel that attaches to a curved leg. I am concerned that the panel will be restricted from moving due to the curve of the leg or create a gap ...
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FIlling up gaps in an old wooden floor

I'm currently in the process of renewing an old wooden floor. What would one use to fill in the gaps between the planks? I've asked in the local home repair store and they gave me a silicone like ...
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How can I design a large speaker cabinet to come together square and true when my panels aren't flat and my boards aren't straight?

This question differs from similar questions about wood warping because I'm not asking how to straighten a warped board nor how to fix an existing design that warped. Rather I'm asking how do you ...
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Do I need to worry about expansion and shrinkage for my table top with wood joined at 45 degree angles?

Sorry if I'm not using correct terms here, I'm kind of new to woodworking (this also means this might be a duplicate question and I didn't know how to search for it). My dad and I are going to do my ...
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Shelf movement in a plywood bookcase

I'm building some 7' by 3' bookcases with mix of plywood and solid oak for the sides and back (mostly plywood), but full solid oak shelving for strength. I'm worried that the ~9" depth to the shelves ...
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Thick tabletop movement

I'm going to build a large table and my customer wants the top 3" thick. My plan is to use wide boards(8"+). So I have some concern about cupping but figure that might not be as much of an issue with ...
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