I've been reading a lot of forum posts on woodworking since I'm very new at it, and a common point I read is that wood needs to be glued soon after surfacing it or else it'll warp. It has left me confused about how I would make something like a solid piece table leg, where it isn't glued to anything along most of its length, without worrying about it warping over time.

For something like that, would I have to buy the wood raw, leave it for a while in the place where it will be used so that it does all the warping it's going to do, and then finish it? How do I know when wood is done warping? Is wood ever done warping?

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    I'm not going to add a competing Answer but I wanted to more specifically address a couple of things from the body of the question. "a common point I read is that wood needs to be glued soon after surfacing it or else it'll warp" It's good that you read that, but it's a slight exaggeration. As commonly stored wood is likely to warp after milling, but that's not to say that A) every piece will and B) every woodworking is dumb enough or lazy enough to allow this to happen. I was enjoying listening to Bob Van Dyke (as I usually do) in one of the FW podcasts last year and he was [contd]
    – Graphus
    Commented May 8, 2021 at 5:27
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    ...saying how he took out some pieces he milled nearly a year previously and they'd moved a scant 1/32". How had they moved so little in all that time? Because he'd wrapped them in plastic (I think they were put into a trash bag but I can't recall the exact details). Over on my side of the pond the standard practice among experienced woodworkers is to sticker and stack wood that has been processed (as opposed to laying it flat on the workbench, or stacking it in a solid bundle) if it can't be used immediately, which accomplishes the same end by a different route.
    – Graphus
    Commented May 8, 2021 at 5:32
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    "It's left me confused about how I would make something like a solid piece table leg" Remember the common concern is about boards, not what is effectively a post. Square-section lumber is far less likely to move once milled than a board which is thin in one dimension and both wide and long. I say less likely because it is still possible for some warpage to occur in a post, but it's less likely and hopefully should be of lesser magnitude. Which bring up the final key point about producing quality stuff: good wood produces good results. It's not about cost, since for example you [contd]
    – Graphus
    Commented May 8, 2021 at 5:36
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    ...can get higher-quality lumber at good prices directly from a small sawmill or lumber supplier than you would in e.g. a home centre. It's just that the wood might be inherently better milled, and then stored more carefully. So take-home messages: be selective in what you buy, especially if you're getting cheap 2x material — get the straightest, least knotty wood they have (even if it means multiple trips, or going to multiple sources!). Learn about what features are likely to mean a board is more or less stable (e.g. QS stock is far more stable than FS) and treat accordingly in the shop.
    – Graphus
    Commented May 8, 2021 at 5:41
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    Hope that helps alleviate some of your concerns...... um, I wasn't going to add anything about this but you might want to try to learn to ID reaction wood (AKA compression wood) in the stuff you buy. It's not that simple, but if you can and therefore avoid buying as much of it as possible you'll be avoiding a lot of potential issues.
    – Graphus
    Commented May 8, 2021 at 5:46

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TL;DR: Wood Never Sleeps.

Wood is a natural product, with natural variation across species and individuals. Not only that, but how timber is grown and processed into dimension lumber also varies. And then that dimension lumber is subject to environmental changes over time (both before and after it is turned into a project) that causes it to move.

The why of this could be a whole thesis, and there are plenty of resources out there that discuss this in depth. But the short answer is that wood is never finished moving because that's the way wood is.

In general, wood will move a lot across the grain, where the alternating growth rings form a "sandwich" of density variation in the material. It will move very little along the grain. Woodworking has to take this into consideration, which is why cupboards and doors and carcases and butcher blocks are typically made the way they are.

This is also why timber is cut the way it is into lumber. For construction grade we don't really care overmuch about bowing, twisting, and cupping. We want it to be cheap and hold fasteners, and be easy to transport and cut. Hence, lighter and quick growing softwoods like pine and fir flat-sawn directly to near-dimension and then quickly kiln-seasoned is fine. For musical instrument necks we want strength and minimal movement, so "quarter-sawn" hardwoods seasoned for decades or more in humidity controlled rooms are what we want.

Craft woodworking strikes a balance between these extremes. Carcase construction often uses rougher pieces. (Even antique pieces by master cabinetmakers often have nasty, knotty junk hidden inside them somewhere.) But if you want a solid wood tabletop to not cup and twist the first winter in your house you will have to pay attention to what different wood wants to do, and what you can do to mitigate that.

Further, not every piece of timber can be sawn into arbitrary lengths of perfect clear lumber. Trees grow unevenly over the years, so the growth rings are going to be imperfect, which leads to imperfect grain in lumber. Wood has internal stresses because it is a natural product that was grown under imperfect and chaotic conditions. These internal stresses are often only exposed once the timber is sawn into lumber.

This is why lumber intended for woodworking goes through a fair amount of seasoning. The idea is that we let the gross movements work their way out. Over time this movement (ideally) becomes smaller and smaller. Though, the challenge is that sawing lumber down to nominal dimensions can sometimes release stresses that were once balanced, leading to more movement. You'll notice that this is why and how lumber is "graded". As it seasons, some timber (and lumber) will inevitably settle into more or less ideal product.

As woodworkers we can try to minimize this movement. We can try to work within the parameters of this movement. We can try to plan for this movement. We can coat the piece in various finishes to slow the environmental impact on it. We can even consider a project "finished" insofar as it will probably not move so much as to no longer work or hold together. But the fact is that, depending on the environment where the project lives, it will continue to move and change over time.

Depending on the nature of the movement, you can often use fasteners and adhesives to counter the movement (this is, after all, what veneers and plywood are all about). If you think about it, all you are doing is engineering a way to counter the stress this movement causes in the piece so that it isn't obvious. But the single most important way to handle this movement is to know it will happen, and select your wood and construction technique to minimize the overall effect this movement will have on the piece.

In other cases there is literally nothing you can do to keep lumber from moving, even if you "glue it and screw it". A poorly built table using cheap flat-sawn lumber is probably going to cup and twist, and the legs will never sit square on the floor; and there isn't much a woodworker can do to stop this.

The way wood moves has informed nearly every single aspect of woodworking, from timber selection, milling, seasoning, joinery, jointing, and design. Not to mention the acceptance that every woodworker needs to come to terms with: that all their creations eventually fall apart into the dust from whence they came.

  • +1. You might want to add a TL;DR warning at the start :-)
    – Graphus
    Commented May 8, 2021 at 5:24
  • @Graphus it's a big subject!
    – user5572
    Commented May 8, 2021 at 12:28
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    Thanks for the detailed answer! Lots to learn getting in to this hobby
    – Chris.B
    Commented May 8, 2021 at 13:14
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    TL;DR: Wood never sleeps. Commented May 8, 2021 at 14:15
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    If one can't answer questions occasionally as if they were a gothic landless Lord, I don't want to live here anymore.
    – user5572
    Commented May 14, 2021 at 12:12

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