I'm working on a workbench and I have started drilling the dog holes using a drill guide and a 19mm (3/4") forstner bit. I'm not exactly sure what went wrong, but a couple of the dog holes are not plumb. The thickness of the top is 38mm and I've drilled them to about 3mm before exiting on the bottom. I planned to use a router with a template bit to finish the cut so not to damage the bottom with tear-out.

For the ones that are perfectly plumb, I think that'll still work, but I'm a bit worried about the ones that aren't.

If I use the template bit in the router, because the hole is not plumb, the bit will bite into a lot of wood at once and I'm not sure whether this is safe to do.

Do you have any advice on how to proceed?

  • "I planned to use a router with a template bit to finish the cut so not to damage the bottom with tear-out" Why? The bottom surface doesn't matter, functionally. BTW this is chip-out, not tearout. "Do you have any advice on how to proceed?" Just finish drilling the holes from the top.
    – Graphus
    Commented Aug 1, 2020 at 7:51
  • Yeah, in the end that-s what I did. Even though the bottom doesn't really matter, I wanted to do it right. But given I wasn't comfortable with that cut, I figured it didn't matter. The chip-out is not too bad to be honest.
    – Kenneth
    Commented Aug 3, 2020 at 10:37
  • Yeah chip-out shouldn't be too bad with a decent Forstner, clean exit holes are one of the things that Forstners are used for. But they need to be ok quality, and sharp. Some bits have decent geometry but aren't as sharp as they could be straight from the factory. A little touch-up work with a slipstone or small diamond paddle and they work like champs.
    – Graphus
    Commented Aug 4, 2020 at 13:34
  • "I wanted to do it right." Well there's no one standard there, right for some is not being too precious about a workbench because, well, it's a work bench. So they'll screw directly into the surface, drill extra dog holes anywhere they need to, and not care about chipout where it doesn't affect function. Other guys though are very different, their benches are almost like pieces of home furniture (with a finish to match) and they'd never dream of driving a screw into the top, and their dog holes are chamfered or rounded off perfectly, both top (where it does matter somewhat) and bottom.
    – Graphus
    Commented Aug 4, 2020 at 13:35

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How not plumb are they? And in what direction? Even if the router works fine your holes will be sort of oval shaped at the bottom which might make your dogs waggle around annoyingly in use.

Personally I would glue 19mm dowels into your bad holes. You might want to drill a small hole all the way through first to let the glue escape and avoid hydraulic lock. Once it has set you can cut off the top and level it. Then start drilling again from scratch.

On the other hand, if they are only very slightly out of plumb you should be fine. Unless I misunderstand you, the router will only be taking small amounts off gradually as you plunge. It might struggle with the last 3mm if you have a straight fluted bit as they dont really cut in the very centre. Avoid this problem by drilling a small hole through the center first.

I'm familiar with those long, 19mm router bits though and don't like them very much. A friend had one kickback and he dropped the router on his leg. It removed what the doctor described as "a satsuma sized chunk of flesh and bone" from his thigh. They deserve a lot of respect. I'd consider clamping the router down to the workbench before making each plunge.

  • Rhetorical questions are ok but please avoid asking questions in Answers if they actually require an answer — remember this isn't a discussion forum but a Q&A venue. If you need to ask a question of the OP to clarify something that's what Comments are for.
    – Graphus
    Commented Aug 1, 2020 at 7:50
  • @Graphus it was intended to be rhetorical. I meant that if the holes were significantly off-plumb then coming in with a router would make them significantly non-cylindrical, which could cause issues.
    – Jambo
    Commented Aug 1, 2020 at 11:01

There is more than one way to avoid tear out. You can drill a small pilot hole all the way through then use your forstner bit to drill from both sides meeting somewhere in the middle. I would choose this method over a router.

Another way is to attach a piece of scrap wood to the bottom of bench where the hole will be drilled so when the drill bit is exiting the bench top it enters the scrap wood thereby avoiding tear out.

On the holes that are not plumb i think for a bench dog hole 3mm of off plumb is negligible and if the rest of the hole, 35mm, is straight and plumb, the dog will be fine. Drill the remaining part straight and true from the underside. (Put a piece of scrap over the misaligned hole and run the forstner bit, from the bottom, all the way up through the previously drilled 3mm to clear any material that would cause a bench dog to not line up correctly.)

  • Yes, I considered those two options, but it was a bit of a hassle as it's a big top and I can't really flip it myself. I currently don't have access to any second hand so wanted to be able to do it from the top. In the end, I just figured the bottom didn't matter too much, so I just drilled through with the forstner bit. Chip-out is not as bad as I thought it would be. The skew dog holes are also not an issue, my bench dogs work perfectly. Thanks for your input!
    – Kenneth
    Commented Aug 3, 2020 at 10:38

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