I am making some one-piece shaker style doors out of MDF. To cut the inset, I'm using a 1/2" collet router with a 2" surfacing bit. I was using a trim router with a 3/4" straight bit but I was having this same problem, so I bought a much heftier router thinking the trim router was underpowered.

Everything seems to go smoothly as I cut out the inset, but once I take the router off and look, there's many lines where the bit somehow changed depth and cut deeper into the workpiece. I even made a gigantic baseplate out of MDF so that it's supported on all four sides at all times, to no avail. My router base is locked securely, the bit is sufficiently tightened in the collet and the 15lb router is completely flat against the workpiece, and I just can't think of how the bit could possibly change depth. I've had this exact same problem on two well-reviewed routers now.

The inset is 3/8" into 3/4" MDF and I'm doing it all in one pass. I imagine this isn't ideal but I don't know any way I could take multiple passes on this setup.

Super baseplate Not-so-groovy grooves Close-up of the worst offender

  • I think you've already hit on the two possible solutions. Either your bit is slipping out of the collet or the plunge mechanism (or depth adjustment if it's not a plunge base) is slipping. The bit could be slipping in the collet due to insufficient tightening, a damaged bit, or a damaged collet. The plunge base slipping would have to be due to some kind of misadjustment or damage to the mechanism. May 29, 2020 at 23:57
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    The above is all possible (perhaps likely), but you could also be getting crud under the base that's pushing things up. If you go back for a second pass, what depth is it? May 30, 2020 at 2:53
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    You're tilting as you work. Edit: I wanted to leave it at that but for a show surface you should expect to have to do a final cleaning pass (where you take off just a smidge more material) regardless of the routing operation that is being done. This is a good practice 100% of the time unless you plan to sand.
    – Graphus
    May 30, 2020 at 5:38
  • So I went back to the router and really made it work and cause some vibrations/chattering/screeching - I was then able to visually see the bit gradually lowering from the collet (presumable from vibrations). So I think the answer to this problem may just be to figure out a way to take multiple passes - after all, this router has 3x the claimed amperage of my trim router, but now that I think about it, the bit is nearly 3x bigger in diameter. So I guess I will be building an even bigger baseplate or a router table.
    – freewinter
    May 30, 2020 at 6:14
  • After the pictures, I went back and did another pass without altering the depth, and it was at the lowest point (so some permanent change is occuring in the bit or the base mechanism). Unfortunately I was not able to isolate the problem completely because I realized that I didn't have my base fully tightened, but I hulk-tightened the bit in the collet and it seemed to fix that problem at least. I would've never guessed the collet nut needed to be tighter, because I'm quite generous with torque anyways. Unfortunately I ran out of wood to ruin, but soon I'll see if shallow passes solve it!
    – freewinter
    May 30, 2020 at 6:15

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Either the tool is slipping in the collet, the collet itself is slipping, or the plunge mechanism is moving.

The comments seem to indicate that it is the tool itself slipping, not the interchangeable collet or the plunge mechanism.

So, either the collet is damaged, or the tool is not mating with the collet surface appropriately. Since this is a newer tool, we can assume the collet is not damaged, or was working recently.

Since you had issues with a previous router, make sure the tool shank isn't chewed up. Any protrusions on the shank will keep the collet from getting a positive bite on it. If the shank is really damaged, replace it. If the shank has some marks on it, feel them with your thumbnail. If the material has galled or mushroomed a bit, you will feel it, and anything above the surface of the shank is going to be a problem. Minor damage like this can be carefully filed and even stoned flat. Minor gouges and scratches can be ignored; it is the material that is proud of the shank we want to remove.

Similarly, make sure the collet is in good shape. Check for obvious damage, or galled metal sticking up. If the collet is new make sure you remove any factory anti-corrosion coating it might have on the inside.

If the collet is not damaged, and the shank is in good shape, then it might be the way the tool is installed into the chuck. Your manual will describe how to mount the tool in the chuck, but I find they miss out on two important pieces of advice:

  1. How to put the tool in the chuck.
  2. How tight to torque the tool down.

First, while there is a minimum amount of shank you want in the chuck (something like half the shank or some minimum, like 20mm, whichever is greater) we also want to be careful about jamming the tool down so the end is tight to the inside bottom of the chuck. This is a problem because as the tool heats up the metals involved can expand, causing the tool to work itself loose. Also, some chucks and collets are such that the collet jaws don't go all the way to the bottom, leaving some amount of shank exposed at the bottom. I have a Sears router that specifically calls this design out in their tool.

My advice is to drop the tool to the end, and then pull it up 1mm or so (or more, if your manual says so, like my aforementioned Sears router), and only then tighten it. This allows for some heat expansion, and lets the collet centre the tool while tightening without it snagging on the bottom of the chuck.

As for how much torque to use to tighten the tool, this is a matter of feel. Though, the spanners or wrenches you get with routers usually reflect the recommended torque range. Larger tools that expect more spinning mass and wider diameter cutters will come with larger spanners, reflecting the need to torque them down more. We don't want to bear down on it like an 800-lb gorilla, but a steady, firm, full handed rotation until it feels nice and snug is in order. Don't jerk on it, but move the spanner smoothly. One trick is to tighten and then move the spanner to a new location and give it a test tighten. You'll often get a 1/8th or 1/16th turn just by changing the tool position.

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