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My mother used to work in home decoration (in Switzerland we have a dedicated name for this: courtepointière) and she always used her Hultafors CONTACT meter (559-2-10) which differs from my regular carpenter ruler because it allows for measuring flat surfaces more easily than mine.

As you can see below the marking is reversed from the usual rulers. It starts from 0 from the inside, not from the outside:

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I feel this reversed version makes much more sense than the regular ones and I am wondering why nobody except my mother (and now me) use them?

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    Can you provide a picture of the other style of ruler? I ask because I really can't see what's different with that ruler. Jan 17 '20 at 21:00
  • Look at (almost) any « carpenter metric ruler » image on Google. You’ll see that the numbers are starting from one on the outer side instead, for this one, on the inner side.
    – nowox
    Jan 17 '20 at 21:03
  • Ah I think I see what you are talking about. Are there numbers printed on the opposite side? If there are and they are reversed, it would allow you to use it either way. As far as usefulness of one over the other: I haven't seen those since I was a child; tape measures are the standard. Jan 17 '20 at 21:09
  • Just wade into any online forum and ask this question. You'll get many opinions about why inside vs outside is better.
    – jdv
    Jan 17 '20 at 21:10
  • @jdv I did not find any objective answers or opinions while searching for "why inside vs outside rulers is better" :(
    – nowox
    Jan 17 '20 at 21:28
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Folding rules come in two main styles: inside read (also called "English measure") and outside read ("American measure").

I've never found a good, verifiable, explanation for the difference. There is a rumour (that I think is unfounded) that the American measure was standardized in simple opposition to the English measure. That seems overly perverse, even for the complicated relationship the US has had with England.

The English measure is certainly more natural for right-handed people who want to use the rule for layout work, marking out left-to-right, or for measuring inside dimensions. Even left-handed folks like myself still work left-to-right, and in that way that left-handed people adjust to a right-handed world, I prefer laying out left-to-right, using my right hand on the rule, and marking with my dominant hand. Though some left-handed people use an English rule upside down (and, indeed, you can get left-handed versions of both styles).

I've heard that plumbers and, later, electricians, preferred American measure, but (again) this is unfounded. I certainly couldn't tell you why this might be so for those trades.

I think most people who want to revisit folding rules should stick with English measure (inside read) rules, at least for most woodworking. It is the most useful for layout, for measuring rough dimension lumber in a yard, and for general carpentry where you want to measure inside dimensions.

Plumbers and electricians use rules in a different manner, and maybe they don't care that it lays flat; perhaps they prefer that it can unfold easily in the left hand so they can reach into a void while they use their right hand to mark or cut.

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Personally I love folding rules, but I would never use one with the measurements on the inside like this because it precludes including the main feature I use them for: The sliding extension.

The sliding extension changes the folding rule from a measuring device into a story-stick that can hold a dimension without the need to remember a measurement. I use this all the time. If you want something to match an inside dimension you just set the slide to the dimension and take it to your workpiece. If you want to make sure a box is square you set the slide to one diagonal and then move it to the other diagonal. If you want regularly spaced items just set the slide to the spacing and measure from one tick mark to the next. Even measuring distances in "home improvement" settings is arguably easier because you can set the distance before moving into the spot you need to measure, unlike with a tape where you need to hold the tape and find the measurement you need at the same time. Without the slide a folding rule has no advantage over the tape measure (and is more awkward to use most of the time.)

If the measurements are on the inside you can't have a slide in the center as it would interfere with the pivot point. (I suppose you could have a narrower slide offset to one side, but I've never seen this.)

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