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Can anyone tell me if this is a oil sharpening stone or water sharpening stone? It was my grandfathers, and I would like to put it into action, but not sure exactly how.

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    It would help significantly if you at least added a picture!
    – FreeMan
    Commented Dec 25, 2020 at 0:38
  • Hi, welcome to StackExchange and merry Christmas. We have a couple of previous Q&As here that'll help with generic advice, including the difficulties of IDing a stone from photos, but mainly there are various tips on how to put a stone back into service — see the Related in the right column on this page to get you started. Use the search too if you want to be sure to find all there is here, but do be aware there is a veritable mountail of info to be found on this subject elsewhere online so this is really only scratching the surface.
    – Graphus
    Commented Dec 25, 2020 at 13:47
  • BTW I don't recall how firmly this was stated before, and in case you don't read it elsewhere either, but the distinction 'waterstone' v 'oilstone' can be largely arbitrary. What this means is that for a large number of stones you can feel free to use water or oil as you prefer. Given the stone was your grandfather's there's every chance this will apply to it, even if the stone was specifically made to work with an oil. Commercial oilstones like Nortons and numerous others can be used with a watery liquid (e.g. screen wash/soapy water) and some users much prefer how they work this way.
    – Graphus
    Commented Dec 25, 2020 at 13:56
  • Looks like the picture did not load, my apologies. Thanks for the advice though, very helpful.
    – Rich
    Commented Dec 26, 2020 at 16:12
  • You can edit a Question at will Rich, so you can add the picture at any time. Please try again. And multiple pics would be desirable here BTW, to show one or both ends and definitely both faces if they don't look the same.
    – Graphus
    Commented Dec 28, 2020 at 10:48

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Simple answer: put some water on it.

If you have an old oil stone, then it probably still has some oil buried in the nooks and crannies. If you put water on it, some of that oil will probably lift off and make the water "oily". You'll see various artifacts of water and oil - a film, a rainbow sheen, drops suspended in the water, etc.

If it's a water stone, well, you'll get nothing except maybe metal particles.

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  • This helps with one aspect of the Question but doesn't necessarily help the OP get the stone back into service. More fully fleshed responses will have to wait on a photo or photos, since we don't yet know anything of its condition. If it was previously used with oil there's every chance it's pretty filthy (nearly all old oilstones are for some reason LOL) so at least some cleaning is called for, if not a thorough stripping or something more compehensive.
    – Graphus
    Commented Dec 27, 2020 at 1:40
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Can anyone tell me if this is a oil sharpening stone or water sharpening stone?

Now that we have a photo to go on it's at least possible to say this was definitely an oil stone in its day, because of the case. Honing-stone boxes don't come to look like that unless they've been used around oil for a long, long time. And also waterstones aren't stored like this anyway.

What is it?

As covered in a previous Q&A How can I identify sharpening stones?? currently nobody can tell. It's literally impossible to even guess.

While the stone appears to be black or dark grey (and there are stones in this colour range1) it could be entirely surface filth! As you'll see if you look around online many old stones are found in a very dark state, close to black in some cases, but after cleaning their native colour is found to be something completely different (and often much much lighter, as in the example in the link above).


The distinction 'waterstone' v 'oilstone' can be largely arbitrary. What this means is that for a large number of stones you can feel free to use water or oil as you prefer. So for your stone despite it previously being used with oil — and even if the stone was specifically made to work with an oil — if you prefer it you can now use it with water, soapy water or any number of other watery liquids such as screen wash, Windex or equivalent window cleaner (I would, however, strongly steer you or anyone away from commercial honing liquids2).

In addition to going from oily mess to watery mess, many 'oilstone' users report that their stones work much more efficiently when not used with an oil of some kind.


I would like to put it into action, but not sure exactly how.

While you might be able to use the stone as-is, as covered in my previous Answer it'll work a lot better (like it was new) if you clean it first; and this is vital if you wanted to seek a firm ID on the stone type elsewhere online.

Cleaning

There are various methods as outlined in the previous Answer above, and also in How to clean sharpening stone in wood case? which can be used singly or together depending on what you find as you begin to work on it. Start with just a wash in hot soapy water (as hot as you can bear with gloves on) and go from there.

Flatten it

Also the surface is likely not flat — most old stones that were users in their day are not even reasonably flat when found, and this looks like it might have a localised hollow that it would be very advantageous to get rid of. In addition to getting a flatter stone lapping is one excellent way to get at least one face back to original colour since the abrasion can expose an entirely fresh surface.

But check the underside first before you do this. Sometimes only one of the two faces of a stone was used and the second one could be pristine! I've been lucky this way a couple of times among the numerous vintage stones that I've bought in recent years.

Box too

If you wanted to you could spruce up the case as well using some of the same methods used for stones. Solvent cleaning especially will be found to be very effective for oil-soaked wood. You can even fully immerse wood in solvent to dissolve out absorbed oil; you'll likely need to weigh it down so it doesn't float. And no, this doesn't harm the wood, although it will look really dry and 'parched' when the solvent evaporates afterwards.

After as much sanding or scraping as you're comfortable doing and then a thin application of literally any finish and the wood could end up looking surprisingly fresh, quite close to new in some cases3.


1 Including natural slates, black Arkansas stones, carborundum stones originally manufactured by Carborundum and later by many others, and Crystolon stones from Norton which are still made today.

2 Because they are usually grossly overpriced — more expensive than good single-malt whiskies! — while being nothing more than glorified window cleaner in many cases.

3 This box though won't end up looking as-new, it's beat up enough that it'll still have plenty of dings and scratches, stains and rounded edges that show it's an old piece. So you won't lose all signs of its age unless you want to.

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  • And there's our canonical "help me with my stone" answer.
    – user5572
    Commented Jul 28, 2021 at 18:53
  • @jdv, thank you!
    – Graphus
    Commented Jul 29, 2021 at 7:34

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